helpfully broke the results down by age group as well, showing that the largest group of people who had no interest in marriage was in their 30s, with 40.5 percent of them saying “no!” to exchanging vows. She met "a guy" during the trip, and they had sex. It’s because both men and women often fail at finding the right person. The over/under for divorce was set at 2 years. My dad pays my mom half. It seems easier to just have a relationship without marriage, it seems less complicated. Either way, it doesn’t matter. That's familiar..."Lets insult men into marrying us. IT’S LIKE HAVING A PARASITE attached to your body and the family courts won’t allow you to rip that blood sucking parasite off your body ! Just make sure that she's the right person for you, and that you have a whole lot of things in common. I didn't bother reading all the comments because I know I'll have to reply to about 75% of them. Plus, you get to have an awesome ceremony and party and get government benefits. Most of my experiences are in tune with a broad spectrum of American men and men in Western society in general. The exact reverse happens for women. Traditions matter. In addition, your wife doesn’t have to use your money to shop, buy groceries, or pay other things if you allow her to work and make her own money, set rules and draw lines in a respectful, non-demanding way, and/or choose your partners more wisely. Our society (again mostly urban) is becoming naturally more liberal and so traditional aspects of marriage go away and more philosophical and practical are considered. When you find that special someone to share life with, you understand and appreciate the concept of being bound by law. A lot of these points are subjective or vary couple to couple. Anyways-been the good devoted husband for 8 long years only to find out one fine day that the ex-wife deciphers that it aint working anymore. The Tom Leykis Show. Great post Eddie, spurred some real discussion on here, Congratulations on the 8 Years! My two cents: 1.) I'd like to hear what you guys think. I don't really see the benefit of not being married at that point. 10. That said, I'd lose a great deal more than material possessions if my wife ever left me. An I agree with Anon. Now really why should we get married? Because they don’t have any real cause to divorce their husbands.”. 5. I thought by Argonaut. My girlfriend has been in my ear constantly about whether or not I think I'll ever marry her. Despite that, if the love for each other truly exists, more reason exists to stay together other than the sex. You have to give up your old, selfish self and step up to the plate. Everyone is different, and has developed different thoughts on life and relationships. Its nothing but a massive scam to trick men into losing everything they worked for. Anyone could be a “good liar,” no matter his or her gender. If so ... http://www.amazon.com/Having-More-Fun-Than-You/dp/0061805211, In reply to James Hunt wrote: Turns out that she's recently been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and truly believes the whole thing is Scott's fault. He Said/She Said w/ Jess Lizama - Duration: 3:43. Not getting married does not impose any barriers to having a family, it only seems to make things socially acceptable. You thought raising a child was expensive? And you will do all of this without ever committing your life to that person? Society made me feel I was living an empty or ‘shallow’ existence………so I dated for 3 years and got married. A guy like me has mastered wealth generation, so I could lose everything I have tomorrow and I'd have it all back in a couple years. But I think you underestimate how cunning some women can be. And me! He passes his life entirely in Wall Street and communicates with his family once a month by means of a telegram in cipher.” - Oscar Wilde, - Capt K - 1) I'd like to think that things will be different for my generation once we get there in 20 years. You seem to be existing in a dreamworld, Audrey. Other people’s failed marriages are irrelevant to your own marriage, meaning the chances of your own marriage succeeding depends on how wisely you chose your wife and how well you two respect each other, not other people’s failures. mod (Andy) note: "Blast from the past - Best of Eddie" - This one is originally from November 2010. Maybe it is because I come from a Latin American home and have only dated Latin women, but if you don't pop the question after X amount of years with someone, then your family and hers start getting in your business and make things worse. By common ground I mean anything from: life attitudes, career aspirations, likes/dislikes, background, family relationships, family values etc. I think marriage is extremely important, that is why I am totally against people marrying too young. ********************************* It’s making each other happy. 6. For example, if you fear that you might end up with a gold digger, then do not be so quick to open your wallet. So my choice is not to have longer than 2 month relationship and then end with being friends. you’re in shape and have good finances), chances are she will not have allowed any or much of the above to happen for fear of that. I am a 45 never married with no kids (that I know of). I’m staying permenantly wary of ALL American women and the moment I catch a whiff of feminism, they lose all romantic appeal in my eyes.. in a word, in a phrase, in a breath.. it’s just gone. are you free? That makes 0 sense given that men have been in charge for most of history. I like the humor in this article. Soon as your improve your ability to find the right women, you would be ready for marriage. 4. But to be safe don’t get married in this fucking piece of shit country. get your ass in check and then your life and wife in check. More if you are a christian, out God in the center of your marriage, take divorce off the table unless adultery was committed, and then only use that as a last resort (ie they cheated before, you forgave them and are working through it, but then they turn around a cheat again). I'm also scared shitless of getting dragged thru the court systems for the custody and child support issues as I have seen way to many friends go through it. Labels and status matter. Whoever wrote this is a very funny guy. If you rich as hell and still work like crazy and want to have a hot wife, don't be surprised when you find out in few months/years that she is in it for the wrong reasons. This thread got a lot more responses than I might have guessed. I was in the anti-marriage camp for a long time, and if I didn't want to have kids I don't know that I would get married. Although marriage is a ritual we are taught as children, it ought to be one that is broke, due to the adverse effects it has; such as a loveless marriage, unhappiness, infidelity, and ultimately leading to divorce. If your girlfriend was indeed hearing wedding bells to the point of her bringing it up, after hearing "No", she would have just dumped you and moved on. Yet, you provided absolutely no evidence that most of the women that file for divorce have cheated on their husbands. Edmundo by Eddie Braverman. 7. “Man the fuck up and get your wife in check”? How does it end? No-fault divorce can be done in all 50 states in the United States. it’s YOU not HER. Fmywife don’t divorce her. In reply to econ wrote: People like change and marriage is not a human trait. Plus I notice I return with an empty wallet and her account is barely touched. Financial considerations should be secondary in marriage if they are primary then i believe it's starting from the wrong end. So therefore marriage is entirely for the benefit of children. My wife acted like the perfect woman before we were married. Men do not gain form marriage - everything they can get from it they can easily get without getting married. i Don’t fraking think so. Thus, a couple with steady jobs should have no problem raising children and themselves. Here's a thought -- escort comments aside: I can spend the rest of my life with someone and raise three kids and have a stable and happy family and the fact if I was married or not is completely irrelevant. Really a win-win situation. it basically forces you to do stuff that you could already do on your own (if you loved each other enough). Divorce, you moron. P.S. If anybody is planning on getting married I offer a word of advice. Hahaha… I already couldn’t stop laughing at this idiocy, but when I got to “persin” I absolutely lost it.. . Think logically by yourself. ‘v been down that road 3 times and I will not ever go down that road again, Their is so amny women out there I can choose from but not for a wife only for sex and sex it is. SupDaily06 Recommended for you. Have you seen the marriage rates are dropping like flies, this is the main reason. Yet, if marriage did statistically reach an all-time low and is falling fast, then it’s simply because many people are choosing the wrong partners or marrying for the wrong reasons. The right woman would also treat you the same way as well. For one thing, you don't spend so much time thinking about and trying to get laid. I'm 23 years old, engaged now for 5 months, wedding in August (at which point I'll be 24). Why would they say that it’s because marriage is a mirage. I’m a 21 year-old virgin, and I’d rather get with 100 women than even get into a relationship with one, and I had been in a few (short) relationships. Either of those could apply to Scott as well. I wanted to see if there was any prenuptial contracts that could keep my income to myself and not give it to the lady I might marry: NOPE, NO SUCH LUCK ! Better than nothing. Anything you accumulate while you are married gets split 50/50 most of the time and I don't believe a pre-nup will effect that much anyway. Most of my friends (girls) make either equal or more money than the guys. MEN…….. Or that women are the ones causing all the issues in marriage and relationships. 2) Divorced, and probably no longer in possession of his business, nice home, Lamborghini, and so forth, and probably not his kids either. I can't tell you how many events I've been to with partner-level guys, and every single one of them (i mean guys age 40+) is there with his wife. Hi, Eric Stratton, rush chairman, damn glad to meet you. I'm not saying that Scott is like BTK, but if he is a sociopath and abused his wife, even as a close friend you wouldn't necessarily know. You don’t even seem like you have much of a choice but to stay single. You seem to be upset. But if not any america male or any man in a western culture will live to get married and then receive a solid ass raping in divorce court when things don’t work out and since divorce rates are about 60% in america that is a very real possiblities. I'm sure there are people that don't plan to have kids in their life time (that's ok), but are they the majority? 10. LoL. 9. “Lets insult men into marrying us. Marriage is an institution that no longer is viable for men in western society. It really seems like a crapshoot in the end because it's not just about being with someone you love but finding the person you can grow with instead of apart in life. Worse than useless. Furthermore, if you’re implying such, or if this is where your mindset stems from, all or most women are not bad merely because your ex-wife supposedly had undesirable characteristics. I can't go on much longer than this. From what I understand, Edmundo married 8 years ago, that means his wife stuck with him from before he started making money, and didn't leave him in 2008 (if he got affected). Actually, because of the pressure to be married, the corruption linked to it (tax break), or the burder to go throught divorce when the spouse is not that bad either increase the chances for cheating. Gotta give credit to Charlie Sheen for speaking the unspeakable:  “I’m not paying you for sex, I’m paying you to leave.”, IF someone start saying you gay then you tell them they are Fucking HOMO for telling you to get married. (Song of Solomon 2:3 ESV), Wow you are a miserable dipwad! Some people were not ‘destined’ to mate with another individual of different gender. My point is that it is perfectly feasible, albeit practically difficult, for a guy to have the best of both worlds. I still get shit routinely about how I need to marry my girlfriend from her parents, her friends, my parents and her. Okay this is a bunch of rubbish. Marriage works in America if the wife and husband are 100% devoted to god, I mean eat, sleep, breath god all day everyday. I see a huge difference in attitude towards marriage between the cultures that I think stem largely from the fact that in one it's just not as necessary financially. It’s basically institutional “slavery” ! I don't think that stigma of being unmarried has really gone away especially for women. Again, if you choose the right partner wisely, you wouldn’t have to cater only to her to make her happy. Think of women as a temporary thing in your life, because as soon as they get bored with you, or as soon as your income begins to drop a bit, they will be gone in the blink of an eye. For someone in a lopsided income/asset relationship (where one partner earns or is worth far more than the other), how could it be to the advantage of the more financially successful partner to get married? In reply to Clarkey wrote: If you have kids, you will pay the mother of your children half, if for no other reason that the kids you love so much got half their genetic code from her. I grew up in a dysfunctional single parent household, and would not want my own kid to go through that. In fact it’s already happening. Yes, the society, the family, friends, the age and religion pressure you (which makes the case family is not that great and friends are not necessarily great people) but if you don’t get married…I doubt they will whole turn their backs and if they do they make a case that some should not be parents. If you've got too much skin in the game, it just isn't worth the risk. I will not bring children into a world with an energy difficant future as we see in the tv show Revolution, It was a complete sudden stop in my life when my relationship with my fiancee came to a halt without any reason and he said that he has fallen for someone else, it was Dr. Eziza who helped me get back my fiancee with a love spell and now we are happily married, thanks a lot Dr. Eziza. It wasn't nihilism, it's just hard core fact that marriage can ruin your life. Finally, if you're worried that your significant other is just after your money, dump her and find someone who's not. Get instant access to lessons taught by experienced private equity pros and bulge bracket The behavior of most American women is utterly disgusting, to say the least. Discussion Starter • #1 • Mar 8, 2011. They enroll in couples therapy. If you have a wife, feeling like crap is normal. 3 months later totally different person. My guess is that these two people should not have been married, not just to each other, but to anyone. I am a 47 year old woman who has never been married. so why ruin a good relationship or add unneeded financial/emotional/etc. – – – IF ever… because me and my gal do not believe all the force fed fairy tales of TV and bs lies. lol dont be a pussy and man the fuck up dude. Then get married. As I moved out of my home, my oldest daughter told my ex to her face that she did not want to live with her, that she wanted to live with me. Nothing pointless about marriage at all. In fact, the judge didn’t even look at me, much less speak to me. Women pay child support, alimony, etc. It’s just some sad shit! After a while you will HATE PIZZA. She must have a low IQ to write such description and actually means it. are you happy? Even if you have the best of intentions and live the life of a saint, the person you marry is a complete wild card. Its when she never worked or the work she did she earned slave wages thats when you get fucked in divorce court. The man gets ass raped in divorce court, he loses everything he worked for and since his life is over he decides that there is nothing left to do but to behead the ex wife that took everything he worked for. You’re lying and most of the intelligent guys here know it. My experience has been that men also go through a mild crisis when they hit 30. I am 31, I own a house and rental apartment, suv and a sedan. You have LESS than 50% chance of making something that actually works for the long run. Slightly different but it produces the following behavior to optimize on their objective function: The problem is both groups ideal situation are mutually exclusive. Before pairing up and especially before saying, “I do,” you just know to know your woman completely. Have a life with your partner before kids consume it, then you can build on your memories, start a family and enjoy your kids (not wait til they are 18 so they can move out). Divorce – In this day and age divorce is a very common thing. Please stop and consider the sources hanging the “gay” label on you. I got two kids and after my divorce. I am not living in a dream world, Solitary Man; I reside in reality. "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHplz come back, we need more humour like this. Wow, I must be the only woman out there that is 150% into sex… I have no qualms about giving my guy head, in fact I absolutely LOVE it. I dont answer their calls when they call me-they’re making plans only for me to cancel on them at the last minute and they still seem to be pursuing you…. In reply to I thought marriage was to get by blastoise. Marriage is just BF and GF with a paper stating so, and behind it are two divorce attys’s waiting for the marriage to end sothey can drain your wallet. At least my parents and a lot of people I know still accept me. As well, the fact that your ex-wife supposedly cheated on you doesn’t mean that it applies to most married women. You shouldn’t ever have to worry about every little aspect of someone’s inner workings just so you can get a glimpse of happiness. Unlock with your email and get bonus: 6 financial modeling lessons free ($199 value). i was married to my husband, i love him so much we have been married for 5 years now with two kids. My other thoughts on marriage is that it provides that stability that Eddie mentioned, which is really nice and comforting. Sex was great and communication as well but then 4 years later I kept hearing excuses for not having sex and the list goes on. If you never actually get married in this arrangement, will you ever discuss the level of commitment you and your wife will make? If am correct there will be more “old maids” (never married females) than there has ever been since the statistics have been kept. So basically many women have a deep rooted hatred towards men that all the wining and dining, respect and love will NEVER CURE. If you don't want kids, I can't think of a single reason to get married (unless she's 85, loaded, and on chemotherapy). Awesome!” and jump in line like someone is giving away a Ferrari. I have never been married, dont want to get married, I make a decent living, unfortunately my work gets in the way of me getting a steady gf, but i get my one nighters here and there. I'm probably somewhat unusual for a guy in his early 20s, but I want to get married. This feature is not available right now. We have sex all the time, 99% initiated by me. I do not wish to pass down the mistakes of my ancestors to the future generation. its apples and oranges. The risk/reward ratio is horrific, which is why I can't recommend marriage to any but those whose sole focus in life is children. In reply to Clarkey wrote: 2.) 3 – SEX AND VARIETY: Imagine eating nothing but pizza for 10 years? When she returns, she has a confession to make. Companionship. And a lot of women are not gold diggers just looking to get half off some dudes shit; you dipshits are just looking choosing the wrong women. See you on the other side! Any tax cut because of children is wiped out completely by college costs. You know why? AND NEVER EVEN THINK ABOUT BRINGING HER HERE, otherwise she will change, she will divorce your butt once here in this country, and she will use the laws against you just like any local woman here would too. The absurd thought that how she feels rules your world – Now don’t get me wrong you should care about other people’s feelings other than your own but they shouldn’t rule your life. Transfer fund to reliable person’s bank account. In marriage sex drive is the least thing to worry about. They were a great couple, and she seemed like a good catch. 1. That's actually not accurate. Tell them you are happy you have money and you have massive amounts of pussy to eat every other day. No one is required to be a mind-reader to determine if his or her partner is the right one for him or her. I also want a kid, ideally before 30. Yea yea so many people will be saying “Well you don’t really know what life is all about till you get married.” Haha that is absurd! The whole point of get married is not a society scam, or whatever you think, it’s just love, that’s all, if you don’t get it it’s because you never loved. When I think about her and being stuck with her forever I seriously get sick to my stomach. Marriage is neither a provider nor an enabler; it's simply tradition. Then maybe marriage will work out. I haven't read all the comments and not sure if somene mentioned already about a recent research from Time Magazine on Marriages. I don’t get how people can have meaningless sex. Now that’s okay if she’s not living with you and not married to you, but if you are MARRIED then you are so screwed, it’s not funny ! How can marriage save you from STDs?? What is the point of marriage, you ask? They automatically gave her the children. It's vestigial. I am unlikely to date, let alone marry, a corporate lawyer/banker - I do not want a girlfriend who has a nuanced opinion on the Sprint / Softbank deal. What if you never want kids though? Banking doesn’t sound as bad when you consider other paths. He told me by two days he will re-unite me and my husband together. If you have kids it sucks but get a divorce and just pay child support. or Want to Unlock by signing in with your social account? Who needs it? On the point of marriage and kids. I’m not sure which fools actually think that will happen but believe you me they are out there. Women nowadays feel they have the right to fuck outside of their marriage because it is thought that all men did this in the past when women’s rights weren’t as prevelant. Instead, marriage beautifully opens it, removing complication and ambiguity: I, (name), take you, (name), to be my wife. Marriage actually sucks if you look purely from legal/financial standpoint. If you agree with all the above, why not commit yourself to someone, but just not marry them? For 6 years you thought she was a great person and a catch, yet now she is nut. For that reason, marriage should not be discouraged. Well the fact of the matter is that kids are damn expensive! 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